Coming in 2025...a DOCUSERIES based on Seasons 1 and 2 of Ex-Wives Undercover
Ex-Wives Undercover: Liars, Cheaters & Love Cons
Ex-Wives Undercover: Liars, Cheaters & Love Cons
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Ex-Wives Undercover: Liars, Cheaters & Love Cons
2024 Best Relationship Podcast

Ex-Wives Undercover: Liars, Cheaters & Love Cons

A podcast that shares chilling stories of love gone wrong, told by the women who survived them.

March 11, 2025

The A-Team Joins From Mrs. to Ms.

We’d love for you to check out our special guest appearance on From Mrs. to Ms. with Andrea.

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March 4, 2025

The Hidden Dangers of Dating as a Widow

The unique challenges widows face in the modern dating world with Christine Baumgartner.

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Feb. 25, 2025

Ghosted Pt. 4

Unpack Lori’s journey, from the moment she realized her husband had vanished to the community of strong women who rallied around her.

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Feb. 18, 2025

Ghosted, Pt. 3

Dive into Lori’s harrowing journey of deception, manipulation, and ultimate resilience.

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Feb. 11, 2025

Ghosted, Pt. 2

What started as a whirlwind romance quickly spiraled into a nightmare of manipulation and betrayal.

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Feb. 4, 2025

Ghosted, Pt. 1

How does a whirlwind romance turn into a haunting revelation?

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Recent Blog Posts

March 2, 2025

Widow Dating 101: Tips, Tricks & Red Flags to Watch For

Navigating the dating world as a widow is a unique and often challenging experience. After spending years—or even decades—with a spouse, re-entering the dating scene can feel overwhelming, intimidating, and, at times, downright scary. Fr…

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Sept. 13, 2024

Who's Looking For A New Paranormal Podcast to Binge?

Ex-Wives Undercover co-host Amber is launching a brand new podcast called NEXT REALM: Beautiful Stories From Beyond this October. While other podcasts are going the scary route, we're taking things in a different direction when it comes to the after…

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June 28, 2024

The story of Ex-Wives Undercover

No one ever saw this coming, but here we are…..two ex-wives bonded forever by the same ex-husband. Once archenemies, now partners in crime, we journey to the edge of sanity to uncover the dark truth about our husband and finally set ourselv…

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About the Hosts

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Athena Klingerman

Podcast Host

Athena lives in Washington State and is married with four children—three girls and a boy! When she's not busy, she loves to escape to their cabin in central Washington for a little fun in the sun. She loves to sing, garden and cook. Before becoming a stay-at-home mom and podcaster, she owned a successful lash extensions and skincare boutique in Kirkland.

Fun fact: Athena tried out for American Idol in the early 2000s and won a golden ticket to Hollywood. She also danced for a minor league football team in Seattle for one season.

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Amber Rasmussen

Podcast Host

Amber lives in Oregon and is a doting dog mama to her Pomeranian/Pekingese pup, Boogie. When she's not busy with her full-time job as a global communications professional, you can find her decorating her new house, exploring nature, or spending time with friends and family.

Fun fact: Amber loves a challenge, so she took several years of Japanese and spent almost a month exploring the country. She also had a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to be in a movie with legendary actor Harrison Ford as his co-star's body double and stand-in!

Reviews

Everyone should listen.

"This show is raw and real. There are many people in the world like this that have ruined innocent people."

Jamungo72 | March 13, 2025

Narcissism

"I love the show so much. I cried the whole time, because I thought I was the only one! I am so appreciative for the show. We have strengthen numbers and we will conquer.!"

M.L.M. Survivor. | May 4, 2024

Season 5 Wow Amazing (Kelly story 1-4)

"Kelly’s story and the accounting of Sara’s experience was a compelling tale of resilience.Amber & Athena you have successfully created a platform of healing. Hope you do get a movie deal. Women acros…"

CorpsGurl | April 25, 2024

Love this podcast! It’s like a Dirty John Series!

"Athena & Amber, you need to have this produced as a mini-series! Just when you think it couldn’t get worse and “Ben” could not come up with a bigger lie, he tops himself, once again!! I once dated s…"

LisaGypsy418 | Feb. 27, 2024

Thank you, thank you.

""Ex-Wives Undercover" deserves a resounding 5 stars! Amber and Athena navigate the challenging tale of a psychopathic narcissist ex with kindness and humor, making the podcast both gripping and enjoy…"

Emphotogalvaca | Dec. 27, 2023

Excellent!!!

"This podcast is one of the best I’ve listened to. I just finished all 5 seasons and can’t wait for more! The format is great, and the voices are incredibly easy listening. I’ve been through similar…"

K2kristy | Dec. 25, 2023

Outstanding!

"Outstanding stories, outstanding interviews, terrific format!"

10 bagger | Dec. 2, 2023

I love this podcast

"I have been glued to this podcast . I love thèse women"

sbdrklr | Nov. 17, 2023

These ladies gave me my voice!

"I cannot imagine not meeting Amber and Athena almost one year ago!!! It seems as if it’s been 10 years we have been through so much. Not only have they treated me with love and kindness but a true si…"

Momo or mo | Nov. 9, 2023

Love this podcast!

"As someone who has been with a narcissist and luckily got out early I really enjoy this podcast. These women have been through so much and it is great to see women supporting women."

krys71887 | Nov. 7, 2023

Excellent podcast

"I love this podcast! I really think they have helped so many women who are in abusive relationships see the light as well as expose the abusers. Keep doing what you’re doing!"

ralphiesx | Nov. 6, 2023

Life lessons

"I’ve been through so much and to hear these stories makes me so understood! I’m currently pregnant and doing it alone but my peace is so much more worth it vs the roller coaster and abuse! Thank you!…"

My3loves08 | Nov. 4, 2023

A Good Binge

"Have followed and listen to the show from the beginning. I have enjoyed and learned a lot about various sociopath traits, and how they manifest in relationships. And the crazy path the girls have be…"

Linny4u22 | Nov. 4, 2023

Women United

"I feel so blessed to have spoken to and gotten to know Athena & Amber. Two empathetic, loving women who experienced a true narcissist. I wouldn’t have believed it could ever happen to me. Learning th…"

gypsyspirit222 | Nov. 4, 2023

Can’t wait for what comes next!

"These ladies are amazing! Thank you for putting out there what most wouldn’t! Can’t wait to see what the next season has in store!"

Brooklyn3820 | Nov. 4, 2023

Amazing women

"Love this podcast, Athena and Amber are strong resilient women who continue to fight for themselves, the children and other women who have been wronged by other narcissistic men. Thank you for telli…"

Sandi_K | Nov. 4, 2023

Love this podcast!!!

"It’s not only informative but the ladies are awesome!!!! Some of their banter is hysterical!!!!!! Seriously, one of my all time favorite!!!!!"

Nancy Reavis | Nov. 4, 2023

Hate him, love them!

"This story is so wild I couldn’t stop listening to the first season! Love the women supporting women these stories are perpetuating. - A Loyal Pitiger"

MelPink | Nov. 4, 2023

Hooked

"I was hooked on this story from episode one!!"

EmmyLou973 | Nov. 4, 2023

LOVE LOVE LOVE

"These women are the epitome of strong!!! The story telling is amazing!! The absolute best part is the friendship that has risen from the bad!!! Can’t wait to listen to more!!"

Alisonstreet | Nov. 4, 2023

THIS PODCAST IS THE BEES KNEES BABY

"thank god for this pod for all the driving I do. Super entertaining, only podcast I can really focus on tbh!"

Bambino ^.< | Nov. 4, 2023

Amazing!

"I appreciate the amount of hard work Athena and Amber (as well as the other lovely ladies involved) have put into this podcast! I have sent this to a few friends of mine to help them see the toxic pa…"

Rachel Etes | Nov. 4, 2023

I’m podcast picky and this is my favorite

"I’ll be honest, I’m not the kind of person that likes all podcast. Or, honestly, most podcasts. But this one is my faaaav. I found it when I was moving from SC to IL and binged the first season while…"

LowMichFrank | Nov. 4, 2023

A validating show

"From a licensed therapist: Thank you Amber and Athena for sharing your stories to help bring more awareness to the dangers of Cluster B personality disorders. The more awareness the more we can prote…"

Lauren W Therapist | Nov. 4, 2023

You are the best! Love the way you tell a story.

"I couldn’t stop listening!"

jessfitmom3 | Nov. 4, 2023

Couldn’t Love It More!

"The ex-wives are true WARRIORS! They share the truth that so many of us have gone through at various levels. They lift up victims and make us feel like the survivors we are. This can happen to anyone…"

FRob76 | Nov. 4, 2023

Best podcast

"I love these ladies origin story and the stories they continue to tell! They get to the nitty gritty and don’t make women feel stupid for falling for theses con artist men! Much love! Keep doing what…"

Rdrtgrl | Nov. 4, 2023

One of the best!

"This podcast is very well done these ladies have shared there stories of how they not only got free from their narcissistic abuser but are now helping others as well. They are amazing women!!"

mack0098 | Nov. 4, 2023

Love the variety of stories

"Great podcast that features a variety of women and their experiences. Although the cons all follow the same playbook, their tactics vary. Educational on the different things to watch out for and how …"

Marobisno | Nov. 3, 2023

Best of the best

"Love everything about this podcast! I love the friendship that the ladies have and it’s refreshing to see the improvement to the show as the seasons go on. Highly recommend!"

SallyJoe5555 | Nov. 3, 2023

Total tea spill

"I’m so glad I found this podcast. Thanks for sharing your experience with us and teaching us not so fun facts along the way."

Spilllllllllllll | Sept. 17, 2023

Love it!

"The things these poor women went through are so cringe-worthy; but love how they prevail and come out on top. All of the stories are so well told & informative to women in the world who may need some…"

BeautyMarksLA | Aug. 17, 2023

Loving this podcast!

"What a nightmare these two lived through! It’s great that they have come together to tell their stories and have each others backs. Wow, just wow."

Jennifer H in Oregon | June 1, 2023

Binge worthy and fun ✨✨✨✨✨

"Just found this podcast and have not been able to stop listening! Love 💕 the true life stories of love and heartbreak 💔 Highly recommend!"

Kirby J Peters | May 23, 2023

Unbelievable

"Great podcast!! These women are so trusting and nice. You can’t believe the things this guy does and just when you thinks he has reach a new low, he tops it."

Mrs. Mom40 | April 29, 2023

Absolute Gem

"Love, love, love! I don’t know why I just discovered this podcast. It is so good! One of my new favorites."

Soonersgigi | April 14, 2023

So good!

"I can’t stop listening to these two powerful women expose men that do terrible things. Highly recommend!"

Neisoxtsjeltocjsbaywifnx | April 6, 2023

This podcast may save lives

"Amber and Athena are doing the world (and especially women) a huge service by telling their stories and those of other victims of narcissists, sociopaths, and catfish. We need to stop blaming victi…"

IMProf | April 1, 2023

Great story’s amazing hosts

"Love this podcast."

lizardwizardddddddd | March 27, 2023

So many red flags you could sew a quilt

"Ladies, listen to this awesome and informative podcast, learn the signs and red flags that are so obvious to outsiders and everyone other than you, and trust your gut instinct when you feel something…"

carrblack | March 24, 2023

Great podcast

"Found this podcast from strictly stalking . This is a awesome podcast . Hit close to home ! From Hillsboro Oregon . Great undercover work ladies !"

eekkdkfmrmdjfkek | March 14, 2023

Thanks Ladies

"Found you through Strictly Stalking. Amazing that y’all survived found each other and share so eloquently. Love your chemistry. I’m almost through Season 1. Bravo. 👏👏👏💕"

MyndiB | March 9, 2023

Extremely Helpful!

"I really feel the pain of these women and pray they get justice for all they have endured. Hearing everyone’s stories on here continue to help me and I’m sure thousands of others. And the hosts of …"

CovertNarcXout | Feb. 14, 2023

New favorite

"I’m really impressed by this podcast and these ladies. Found this after finding something was wrong. This podcast does such a better job at giving victims a full platform to speak and then having oth…"

ownrhtodowgwvr | Feb. 11, 2023

Season 5

"Amber had me literally crying laughing when she thought “shank” meant boyfriend in prison 😂😂😂 omg she couldn’t stop laughing. I was cracking up. Great podcast ladies!"

nxjdkcn | Feb. 9, 2023

Amazing

"Perfect pace and episode length. Everytime I think it’s done this guy just keeps going with the crazy antics. I can’t believe it."

lxtea | Feb. 3, 2023

New Favorite

"Very similar to Something was Wrong and I look forward to bingeing on ALL the episodes! I just love the two hosts of the show-great voices and tone and they go well together."

jdjerjhfiei | Feb. 2, 2023

🥰🥰🥰

"Just listening to you both makes me re look at my 9 year relationship…"

theclassicdollface | Jan. 25, 2023

Two Strong Women Telling Their Stories

"When I say I am addicted to this podcast, I am ADDICTED! Athena and Amber are strong, amazing and caring women who got mixed up with a truly crazy man. It’s so refreshing to hear their stories coming…"

halloweenbean | Jan. 24, 2023

Love it!

"Go listen .. you won't regret it"

Jess_987654 | Jan. 20, 2023

Funny, informative, important

"Thank you for this podcast!"

Kjindigo | Jan. 19, 2023

An absolutely wild ride!

"What is shocking is the guy’s relentless, malicious behavior that has zero limits, zero regard for laws, and zero regard for any other human being. Unfortunately, what I’m not surprised by, is the w…"

HS318713 | Jan. 18, 2023

New Fave

"Need a break from murder podcasts and these exes are criminal. Super well done narration, editing, and captivating stories. Keep up the great work, ladies!"

Duncanomics | Dec. 29, 2022

Completely Hooked

"Can’t stop listening 🥰 Really sorry what you’ve been though."

Mikkasbraga | Dec. 16, 2022

I dodge your bullet

"I was just with a narcissist, but only wasted about 5 months of my life. Not a waste, though, cuz I learned a lot! Throughout every episode, I thought to myself, “Anthony would have done that. That’s…"

uMmHeaTheR | Dec. 13, 2022

Wowza! Great Podcast!

"This is a great eye opener for those in the dating game. This dude is a complete lunatic."

RescueMomCg | Nov. 22, 2022

Absolute must listen!!!!

"I love this podcast!! It’s well put together!! Once you start listening you will not want to stop listening!!"

HeatherG from Tampa | Nov. 4, 2022

Sinister

"I loved this podcast. Such a great warning to anyone. Listen to your gut feeling!"

laura90049 | Oct. 15, 2022

Sadie

"Sadie I hope you see this… you are such an amazing strong woman and your kids are lucky to have you as a mom!"

poseyremi | Oct. 14, 2022

Love this podcast and Love these ladies!!

"This is by far my favorite podcast ever!! I love these ladies and how candid and kind they are. They are creating a “P-tiger” nation of people with more “relationship intuition and intelligence” one …"

bdhdjn zcnvdom xu | Sept. 16, 2022

Best podcast!

"I am sad about all these ladies went thru due to being involved with a psycho madman- but very grateful they took the time to make so many episodes that tell all they went thru. I’m sure it will help…"

Gw0704 | Sept. 4, 2022

Love them

"I have fallen in love with these women. Listening to the stories and what they went through is amazing. I don’t think I could’ve handled it with as much grace as they have. I’m so happy that they hav…"

Greg.stowe | Aug. 30, 2022

Great

"I love this"

best ACCM | Aug. 24, 2022

Binge worthy

"If you have ever had a Ben or not…. This is the most engrossing, sit on the edge of your seat ride. Don’t bother buckling up because when you think you are there, this ride accelerates and sharply tu…"

veggie68 | July 3, 2022

I love this podcast

"I have been obsessed with this podcast!! I refer it to all my sisters and best friends. We love you ladies and I hope y’all keep up the great work!!"

bkkbuck | June 16, 2022

Wow - best podcast I have listened to

"I’m not a podcast person and I could NOT stop listening to this. This story is wild!! Athena and Amber are amazing for having the resilience to go through this. Can’t wait to catch this on my TV soon."

dk526 | June 14, 2022

YES!!!

"I love listening to these ladies! I feel like we are friends! My BFF worked with Ben so we were on our own journey a few years ago to figure him out."

SDAJAA | June 10, 2022

Netflix or Hulu?

"I want to start a petition to make this podcast into a tv series! I’ve been binge listening to this for weeks! I’m completely hooked & obsessed! I can’t wait for more… My husband also thanks you ladi…"

Cianaxxx | June 7, 2022

Jaw dropping

"This Podcast is literally jaw dropping. It’s so good and a must to add to your favorites."

SillyJennV | June 3, 2022

Bingeworthy!!!

"I’m so late to this podcast and I’m sad I didn’t find it sooner. These two are amazing and their stories blow my entire mind."

Buhrittanyyyy | June 1, 2022

Wow

"I ran across these amazing women on my fyp on TikTok and I’m obsessed!!!"

nope1133 | May 31, 2022

Queens

"Y’all are the best. This is true fixing-each-other’s-crowns listening and I love how supportive the women are in this podcast. It’s so refreshing. Together, we can do ANYTHING!!"

XianChanse | May 30, 2022

MUST LISTEN

"I look forward to my drives alone just to listen to Athena and Amber! Love that they’re sharing their story and empowering women 🤍"

champagneKC | May 26, 2022

I feel like they’re MY friends

"There’s so much to love about this podcast. Women uniting together, coming up stronger and just the over all balance of humor and emotion. I especially relate to this when Amber is open about her str…"

MariaSRichardson13 | May 23, 2022

These dudes are everywhere….ugh

"My ex is a Ben - a manipulative, lying, cheater and his 2nd ex wife and I are buds now. Different story, but same stupid garbage. Great pod, glad I found and binged it!"

Mels222 | May 20, 2022

Thank you!

"Thank you for being transparent, candid & honest about this. I tend to explain away red flags and feel so embarrassed that I won’t make the right choices for ME. I’ve been listening ever chance and …"

MarlsBarkley1978 | May 19, 2022

Uniting women

"I stumbled on Ex wives undercover on tiktok. Checked out the podcast and really was interesting to hear the ex wives and girlfriends tell their stories in hopes to help other women. I am sorry that …"

Britini | May 19, 2022

I’m sooooo hooked!

"It gets better and better. Thank you for sharing your story."

Claudya! | May 18, 2022

HOOKED!! 🍿

"I’m definitely HOOKED!"

ninabonita90 | May 18, 2022

Can’t stop listening

"At first it was a little hard to follow, I didn’t know who was talking…now I recognize each of your voices so it’s easier to follow. The story is just so crazy, I go from being furious for you one mi…"

ineedanewremote | May 16, 2022

Binge listening!

"It took me a bit to get hooked, the first couple of episodes was a lot of cross talk and interrupting each other so it was hard to follow but as the episodes go, you guys are doing such an amazing jo…"

itsmejincho | May 12, 2022

I’m hooked already!

"Thanks for sharing your story!"

HannahMae528 | May 12, 2022

Hooked!!

"I recently found y'all of TikTok and have been listening non-stop."

jackiebaby90 | May 11, 2022

Absolutely hooked!

"I’m so glad I found these lovely ladies on TikTok. I started Season 1 today, and I haven’t been able to stop listening! The story telling is amazing! I’m hooked!"

amandasjehhdhdhhd | May 6, 2022

Best podcast ever

"This is a powerful story - Amber and Athena are so raw and vulnerable! I recommend this podcast to everybody I know. While it’s a complicated story, they do a wonderful job sharing the story. Well do…"

FG1409 | May 4, 2022

The best.

"I’m not one to write reviews, but these girls are the best. Somehow as you listen to their tremendous story you really get to feel like you know them!"

The Boldtsss | May 2, 2022

Love

"I loved these girls more every episode. So raw and real"

Sarshboogie | April 12, 2022

Thanks for sharing

"I’m so sorry that you all went through this and thankful there is a light at the end. When “crazy” enters your life & changes your world, it’s such a long road to recovery. Thanks for sharing your st…"

Acctspd98 | March 31, 2022

I love this podcast!

"Ive been listening since the beginning and Im such a fangirl! Keep up the incredible work! Thank you for helping educate and give a safe space to survivors! -Behk"

MY BDWY IS IN 5 WEEKS | June 20, 2024

Narcissism

"I love the show so much. I cried the whole time, because I thought I was the only one! I am so appreciative for the show. We have strengthen numbers and we will conquer!"

M.L.M. Survivor. | Aug. 8, 2024

Fantastic Pod

"Just listened to all of the episodes on Todd Dean. Way to go; very thorough and thoughtfully done. And I love that you two and helping other women recognize a scammer and/or a narcissist. Very import…"

Jacquie from Marin | Nov. 22, 2024

Continued greatness

"Listening to your recap, was really happy to hear your statement about not losing yourself in success and having a big head; your fans are witnessing the rapid decline of Tiffany Reese on SWW and are…"

LotsOPods | Jan. 11, 2025

Yall are so real!

"I love how real yall are. I love you talk over each other. It feels like a real conversation. My friends and I always talk over each other lol. Thank you for being you."

Ohmygodbecky(:)( | Feb. 2, 2025